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| 2013 Topps Archvies #48 |
1. Collect Phillies cards.
2. Collect all base 201X cards of any player appearing with the Phillies during 201X, even if his cards don't picture him with the Phillies.
In accordance with Jim's Phillies Collecting Rule™ #2, I added 2013 Topps Heritage cards of Ezequiel Carrera, John McDonald and Casper Wells to my Phillies collection, even though their cards picture those players with the Indians, Diamondbacks and Mariners, respectively.
My question to you, dear reader, is what should I do in the case of 2013 Ryne Sandberg cards? Sandberg is now the interim manager of the Phillies, and I have his two Phillies team issued cards already in my collection. However . . . Sandberg has also appeared on base cards in the following sets so far this year: Pinnacle, Topps Allen & Ginter, Topps Archives, Topps Gypsy Queen, Topps Museum Collection and Topps Tribute.
Do I add these non-Phillies cards to my Phillies collection, based solely on an interpretation of Jim's Phillies Collecting Rule™ #2? Or do I ignore these cards and carry on?
I anxiously await your input.
I would never have rule #2 in my team collecting rules, so take this for what it's worth:
ReplyDeleteNO CUBS IN YOUR COLLECTION!
I'd be horrified if I turned the pages and saw Cubs cards where Dodgers should be (only acceptable if there is the word "Dodgers," as the affiliated team of the player, somewhere on the card front).
I'm with NO in that I can't imagine having rule #2. That opens the door for having even more Yankees cards in my collection. The 2-player cards are more than enough of those, thank you very much.
ReplyDeleteBut, you do have the rule, so that's fine. I do think there's a distinction to be made in collecting player cards of the manager. If Ryne managed the Cubs before coming to Philly, I'd say include him. But, playing in Chicago 20 years before managing in Philly doesn't cut it.
On the other hand, I suspect you'll add them to your wantlist and figure, what the hey? If someone wants to send them my way, I'm not going to turn them down...but I won't actively seek them out.
If you go that route, I have the Archives one set aside for you.
Thanks guys and I see your point(s).
ReplyDeleteBut as a hypothetical . . . If Charlie Manuel had been included on an Archives card as a Dodger, I would not have hesitated to acquire that card and add it to my Phillies binder.
I'm still on the fence with the Sandberg cards, but I like S36's idea. If these cards end up in my collection, then so be it.
Sorry, Night Owl,
ReplyDeleteYOU MUST HAVE CUBS IN YOUR COLLECTION!
He's on the team, he's got cards in sets...got to get 'em...even if he's in Cubbie blue.
You can also now consider yourself a Ryne Sandberg collector, since Topps seems to include him in just about every set.
I say put all the Cubs you can in your collection. Then ram a couple salad forks into your eyes.
ReplyDeleteBut that's just me - my opinion could be seen as extreme.
James,
ReplyDeleteI have followed your rule #2 every season since the early 1960s, which is why my Phillies' pages include a '67 Gene Oliver (Braves), '69 Vic Roznovsky (Orioles), and '72 Jim Nash (Braves).
However, if a recently-acquired Phillie gets an updated card that same year (like 1972 Steve Carlton, or many others from 1981-on), then their base card with the prior team is excluded from the "Phillies set".
Unlike many of you, I DON'T include cards like league leaders and checklists* that happen to have Phillies on them as "Phillies cards".
*except the '73 and '74 team checklists
It's your rule so you can adjust it however it serves you best. I do like 36's idea to just take them if you get them.
ReplyDeleteMy advice is similar to Jim from Downingtown's: Use a non-Phillies base card only if there are no Phillies base cards of that player released that season. If there are Phillies cards, drop the non-Phillies card.
ReplyDeleteThat would result in you leaving out such cards as 1972 Steve Carlton as a Cardinal (since he had a traded card) and 1979 Pete Rose as a Red and Manny Trillo as a Cub (since they had Phillies BK Lounge cards). But also oddities like that 1972 Archives Sandberg. Also, presumably your binders do have sheets for larger team-issue cards, so that's not an issue. (I imagine some people would prefer uniformity of size, so it might not work for them.) So I say you have Ryno covered with the team issue cards (even if only as a coach).
Hey, they have to put out a 2.1 team set, right, to show Ryno as the manager? I can't imagine they won't, but perhaps....